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Harv’s First Winter Solo Camping Trip

December 1st, 2008 by Muller_Jim
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Harvey Road writes a blog focused on skiing in the Adirondacks and activities surrounding North River, NY.

I just found a post at Harvey Road that was written from a past journal entry. It describes a 3 day- 2 night winter solo camping trip taken in the 13th Lake, Garnet Hill, Puffer Pond, Twin Ponds area.

While I don’t endorse solo winter camping I certainly appreciate the motivation that results when a colleague bails on a planned trip.  Plus he had a new solo tent that just HAD to be used.  I have been there!

It is an interesting read with some familiar nice pictures interspersed.

Check it out.

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Winter Camping in the early 1900s

November 29th, 2008 by Muller_Jim
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To get a sense of what winter camping was like in the early 1900’s read Winter Camping By Warwick Stevens Carpenter.  This 164 page book on the sport of winter camping and its equipment and perils was was published  in 1920.  The book survived long enough for the copyright to expire and the book to enter the public domain.  A public domain book is one that was never subject to copyright or whose legal copyright term has expired.  It was digitized Mar 12, 2008 by the Google Books Project.  Chapter topics include

  • The New Sport
  • Personal Outfit
  • Party Outfit
  • Food
  • Packing And Transportation
  • Shelter And Beds
  • Camp Fires And Stoves
  • Snowshoes And Skis
  • Hints And Helps
  • Wild Life In Winter
  • Diversions Of The Winter Camp

The full book is available as a 2mb pdf here.

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Happy Thanksgiving

November 26th, 2008 by Muller_Jim
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I am thankful that we have snow……

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Recent Comments to WinterCampers.com

November 25th, 2008 by Muller_Jim
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Christa (babydoll75@comcast.net) writes:  We are a family of four wanting to get into winter camping and we are located in Maryland.  Our past camping trips have mainly been to state parks which all close for the winter, so I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for locations for us to winter camp?

Jim Rausch (cinnamonboy1@msn.com ) writes: Hey folks, Unbelievably great site!! I’m a Scout leader in Maine and was looking for something to present about Winter Camping that wasn’t just the usual same old thing. Basically, everything I could be looking for is here. Found your site by starting at ScoutsNewEngland and kept going…. You bet it’s tagged as a favorite now, and I’ll share it around. Keep up the good work!
J.R.

Matt Pietryszyn (matthew.pietryszyn@mycampsitereview.com) writes: Hi Jim,I hope you don’t mind, I placed your winter camping video on our blog site: http://www.mycampsitereview.com/blog. I’ve made sure to link back to wintercampers.com. We really like your site - lots of great info. By the way - you could win a gps receiver at http://www.mycampsitereview.com just by submitting a campsite review - if we don’t have the campground or location in our system - you can add it! Happy Camping! Matt - myCampsiteReview.com

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Winter Camping Sleeping Pads

November 25th, 2008 by Muller_Jim
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How do you sleep while winter camping?
I like to bring a closed cell pad for warmth and a Therm-a-rest for comfort.  I see that Thermarest has a new compact mattress - the ultralight NeoAir mattress - that may provide both features in one light package.

The Therm-a-Rest NeoAir mattress packs to the size of a one liter bottle and weighs 14 ounces for a regular size.  The NeoAir mattress is designed to be warm to sleep on, thanks to a Reflective Barrier that reflects heat back to the user’s body and reduces convective heat loss to the ground. A 2nd technology, the Triangular Core Matrix, contributes to the warmth by creating a multitude of air cells that minimize air movement and convective cooling. Unfortunately the NeoAir won’t be available until April 2009.  DARN.  Read the whole press release here.

I got a response from Cascade Designs regarding my query into the suitability of this product for winter camping.

I also want to verify with you that the NeoAir is intended as a 3-season mattress. We consider any mattress with an R-Value of 3.0 or below 3-season and 3.0 or above a 4-season.  We rate it the NeoAir with an R-Value of 2.5, which is right in line with our lightest 3-season mattress (the ProLite 3, which next year will be the same R-Value, but lighter and called just the “ProLite) at 2.2 for the unisex and 2.8 for the Women’s model. Our lightest 4-season mattress is the ProLite 4, which is rated at an R-Value of 3.2 for the unisex and 4.1 for the Women’s model. The ProLite 4 is being updated for 2009 as well (available in March), called the ProLite Plus and will remain the same weight, but will be warmer at 3.8 and 4.5.

It appears the NeoAir won’t be that much remarkably warmer.  I may stick with my closed cell pad and regular therm-a-rest.

I also checked out the Thermarest FAQ for information relevant to winter camping and pulled these Q&A.

  1. Which mattress or combination of mattresses do you recommend for snow camping? Many experienced mountaineers and cold-climate adventurers find that using a ProLite 3 or 4 mattress in conjunction with a RidgeRest or Z-Lite pad is a great way to increase warmth without the bulk or weight of a single large mattress. This combo also offers extra puncture protection for your self-inflating mattress. If you were to choose a single mattress for cold weather usage, it should be the Trail Comfort™, which is designed to deliver our best combination of comfort, warmth, and weight. One final snow camping tip: Try over-inflating your mattress with a few extra breaths of air. Your mattress will be a bit more firm, but the added air will increase the foam’s loft for extra insulation.
  2. Can I blow into a mattress if I am sleeping on snow? Yes. Doing so will increase the loft of the pad as well as its warmth.
  3. What about moisture buildup in the mattress when I blow into it? If you let your mattress self-inflate for a while and then add only a few puffs of air, you don’t have to worry about moisture buildup. Even in winter, freezing of moisture in the pad isn’t an issue unless you are doing this daily for months at a time.
  4. Can I ever get my mattress back to the same rolled size as when I bought it? Option1: Fold the mattress several times and sit on it to get most of the air out, then start at the end and roll toward the valve, using your knee as pressure to keep it rolling tightly.  Option 2: Fold mattress in half lengthwise, then fold again. Now sit on mattress and open the valve. When all the air is out, close the valve and roll up your mattress.
  5. What side of the mattress do I sleep on? The side of the mattress with the logo and serial number will most often be made of our nonslip fabric—this is the “top.” The fabric greatly increases friction between your Therm-a-Rest and a slippery sleeping bag, so you stay put on your mattress all night long.

You can read the whole Thermarest FAQ here.

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Out In The Cold: Build a snow cave for a night in an outdoor icy cage

November 24th, 2008 by Muller_Jim
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In the article “Out In The Cold:  Build a snow cave for a night in an outdoor icy cage” by Justin Nyberg  in the Santa Fe Reporter 11/19/2008 Justin reports on making a snow cave and sleeping overnight.  As he says: “But if you can keep the needle on the misery meter pointing more toward adventure than disaster, winter camping can be a blast!”  Follow the link above or read the entire article here.

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Just one more puff…..

November 23rd, 2008 by Muller_Jim
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During the winter a self-inflating mattress sometimes needs a little extra assistance.  Below Mark demonstrates proper lip placement in order to give his therm-a-rest a couple more puffs before laying it down inside the tipi.  Cold air and cold ground can keep the mattress from achieving full inflation on its own.  That extra air can mean extra warmth and extra comfort.

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WinterCampers Collage

November 22nd, 2008 by Muller_Jim
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Outside Magazine JetBoil Helios Stove Review

November 19th, 2008 by Muller_Jim
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Outside magazine has a review of the $150 JetBoil Helios system.  You should read the whole review, but they found it lacking as a winter camping stove.

We found the Helios to be a competent, efficient stove most of the time, but not in the real-world winter conditions it’s specifically designed for. In our  backcountry tests, it fail in such annoying ways at such inopportune times that we simply can’t recommend it until several promised upgrades hit the production line.

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Trying Orienteering?

November 19th, 2008 by Muller_Jim
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Tom Mangan’s Bay Area Hiking Blog -  “Two Heel Drive” - has a nice entry about his inaugural orienteering attempt.

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